Grateful Dead Live at Newcastle-Under-Lyme on 1970-05-24
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Casey Jones, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Hard To Handle, Uncle John's Band, Cryptical Envelopement-> Drums-> The Other One-> Cryptical Envelopement-> Attics Of My Life, Good Lovin'-> Drums-> Good Lovin', Cold Rain & Snow, Dark Star-> Saint Stephen-> Not Fade Away-> Turn On Your Love Light
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SBD MR> C> D> CD + AUD MR> C> D> CD patches; mastered by Hanno Bunjes, with thanks to Uli for the AUD source; Hanno's notes
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- 2004-05-30 20:00:05
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- 2
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- gd70-05-24.sbd.hanno.6481.sbeok.shnf
- Lineage
- SBD MR > Cass > DAT > CD + AUD MR > Cass > DAT > CD patches
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- Newcastle, EN
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- 2
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- Hanno Bunjes and Uli Tete
- Type
- sound
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- Newcastle-Under-Lyme
- Year
- 1970
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Reviewer:
belmon28
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April 5, 2012 (edited)
Subject: Smokin' Show
Subject: Smokin' Show
Very strong performance of The Dead in Newcastle, UK some 33 years ago. The recording is bit rough around the edges but what do you expect when Bear is passing around some heavy medicine. My thinking about tape noise/cuts is that they can often mirror what the dead is about. A crackle or hiss here or there is not so dissimilar to A jam that fermented out of some idea or passage. I would have loved to have been there. Free and a very young Black Sabbath were on the bill too. What to Toni Iommi And Garcia have in common?
Reviewer:
lickmyballs
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May 24, 2011
Subject: Crackling with energy
Subject: Crackling with energy
Tubes are hot, levels peaking. Sounds nice to me. This Other One is white heat jamming. It is ELECTRIC. You can feel the power of the amplifiers...the sensitivity of the microphones. Billy's kick drum probably sounds pretty close to what Jerry heard standing on stage. Turn this one up. You won't be sorry.
Reviewer:
clementinescaboose
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November 15, 2010
Subject: steal your face
Subject: steal your face
and freak out your house pets with this Dark Star. primal show, worth streaming.
Reviewer:
cb18201
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January 19, 2009
Subject: box set info
Subject: box set info
go here for info on the box set for the festival this show was played at.
http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/hollywood-festival-DVD.html
http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/hollywood-festival-DVD.html
Reviewer:
Chris U.
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May 25, 2008
Subject: A Crying Shame
Subject: A Crying Shame
If you are a Pigpen fan then I warn you: have a handkerchief ready when you listen to the Lovelight cuz the sound is not all it could be but ... but ... but ..
Jerry is so wacked or antsy on this show (what is the deal with that lame, lame Cryptical Outro??!?) that Pigpen plainly decides to take the helm. Listen to the fxcking organ, my friends! Skip to about 10:30 for a taste (the sound quality gets raspy there but bear with it ... no pun intended).
Beginning at 12:15, Pig induces Jerry into one of the sickest solos this side of Caution ... unless that's some "guest" guitarist that showed up on stage. Is it Jerry? Because Pig tries to bring him back at 13:30 and is completely IGNORED! Then at 13:29, suddenly: it's the Jerry we all know and love. Did he just snap out of his bad trip? Or was he taking a smoke break while Lord Felcher Pamphlet stepped in to take his place for a desperate minute?
No worries. By 15:00 we are back in uncharted territory. And then there's a tape cut. Who knows how long they were at it? At 16:00 Jerry, Bobby and Phil pretty much unplug themselves to solve the feedback problem!
BUT THE DRUMMERS AND PIG KEEP GOING!!
At 17:16 somebody yells, "Yeah, let's keep going!" and another guy yells, "What are you going to do Pigpen??"
So Pigpen does "his thing" and by 19:38 the entire band is back on the bus. At 20:00 Pig gets the European freaks (or their roadies) chanting "Right on! Right on! Right on!" along with the music.
"What's that you say?" "Right on! Right on! Right on!!"
After that the energy sort of goes downhill although the final chords are impressive.
Re the Dark Star: at the beginning, the sound quality is far superior to the Lovelight and the mix is very interesting. I almost wonder if Bobby is playing a borrowed instrument because the tone sounds nothing like his usual 1970 tone ... far more distorted. I don't think it's a recording artefact.
Phil is sort of absent until around 3:00 and then just rolls in as if he was there all along (he probably was). The levels get progressively weirder until the sound quality nearly disintegrates. Then around 5:00 a hum sets in. But stay with it! Because at 10:00 the percussionists are truly "exploring the space" (although I don't hear the wind chimes or xylophone as beautifully as in the McFarlin Auditorium later in December). After that ... it's okay but not your mama's perfume or anything or like that.
The Good Lovin' is relatively solid sound quality. There are some glitches in the China Cat but as you might expect from some of the other problems, Bobby's not mic'd loud enough for his solo during the segue.
Jerry is so wacked or antsy on this show (what is the deal with that lame, lame Cryptical Outro??!?) that Pigpen plainly decides to take the helm. Listen to the fxcking organ, my friends! Skip to about 10:30 for a taste (the sound quality gets raspy there but bear with it ... no pun intended).
Beginning at 12:15, Pig induces Jerry into one of the sickest solos this side of Caution ... unless that's some "guest" guitarist that showed up on stage. Is it Jerry? Because Pig tries to bring him back at 13:30 and is completely IGNORED! Then at 13:29, suddenly: it's the Jerry we all know and love. Did he just snap out of his bad trip? Or was he taking a smoke break while Lord Felcher Pamphlet stepped in to take his place for a desperate minute?
No worries. By 15:00 we are back in uncharted territory. And then there's a tape cut. Who knows how long they were at it? At 16:00 Jerry, Bobby and Phil pretty much unplug themselves to solve the feedback problem!
BUT THE DRUMMERS AND PIG KEEP GOING!!
At 17:16 somebody yells, "Yeah, let's keep going!" and another guy yells, "What are you going to do Pigpen??"
So Pigpen does "his thing" and by 19:38 the entire band is back on the bus. At 20:00 Pig gets the European freaks (or their roadies) chanting "Right on! Right on! Right on!" along with the music.
"What's that you say?" "Right on! Right on! Right on!!"
After that the energy sort of goes downhill although the final chords are impressive.
Re the Dark Star: at the beginning, the sound quality is far superior to the Lovelight and the mix is very interesting. I almost wonder if Bobby is playing a borrowed instrument because the tone sounds nothing like his usual 1970 tone ... far more distorted. I don't think it's a recording artefact.
Phil is sort of absent until around 3:00 and then just rolls in as if he was there all along (he probably was). The levels get progressively weirder until the sound quality nearly disintegrates. Then around 5:00 a hum sets in. But stay with it! Because at 10:00 the percussionists are truly "exploring the space" (although I don't hear the wind chimes or xylophone as beautifully as in the McFarlin Auditorium later in December). After that ... it's okay but not your mama's perfume or anything or like that.
The Good Lovin' is relatively solid sound quality. There are some glitches in the China Cat but as you might expect from some of the other problems, Bobby's not mic'd loud enough for his solo during the segue.
Reviewer:
NattyDead
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May 24, 2008
Subject: Jam
Subject: Jam
Nice jam in dark star worth the listen. Think its a darkness jam kind of Uncle Johny, pretty long as they go. If you like 9/18/70 Star Check this out. Peace And Love to the Dead And all the heads
Reviewer:
RFKROX
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January 15, 2008
Subject: This show kicks ass!!
Subject: This show kicks ass!!
Anyone that thinks this show is 3 stars or less needs to have their head examined! And if you disagree with my assessment, then you must have eggs for brains! lol Easily one of the best shows of 1970. In fact, for 1969-1971, it's a top-10 off-the-hook show, IMHO.
This setlist rocks! I think it's safe to say the Dead were trying to make a statement since it was their first international show (outside of North America). The China Cat > Rider are some of the best versions out there that easily rival the best versions. The Other One and Good Lovin' put this show into high gear. Then comes Dark Star, which one could make a case for a top-5 DS of all time! I think Garcia and the boys were definitely experimenting with this version, but it's a killer version at that!
This show has energy from the start of Casey Jones all the way through Lovelight. If you like 70's Dead, then this is a "must-have" show to download. It's definitely worth 5 stars, hands-down! This soundboard patched with audience source is quite good. Nothing wrong with the sound quality for this show.
Oh, and Me and My Uncle just may be a top-5 version out there! Bob Weir's rhythm guitar and profound singing compliment Jerry's lead guitar quite admirably. And then they go right into Crytical Envelopment. Doesn't get much better than that, folks!
If you want to know how to download this show, feel free to email me at rfkrox44@hotmail.com.
Danny from Northern Virginia outside of D.C.
This setlist rocks! I think it's safe to say the Dead were trying to make a statement since it was their first international show (outside of North America). The China Cat > Rider are some of the best versions out there that easily rival the best versions. The Other One and Good Lovin' put this show into high gear. Then comes Dark Star, which one could make a case for a top-5 DS of all time! I think Garcia and the boys were definitely experimenting with this version, but it's a killer version at that!
This show has energy from the start of Casey Jones all the way through Lovelight. If you like 70's Dead, then this is a "must-have" show to download. It's definitely worth 5 stars, hands-down! This soundboard patched with audience source is quite good. Nothing wrong with the sound quality for this show.
Oh, and Me and My Uncle just may be a top-5 version out there! Bob Weir's rhythm guitar and profound singing compliment Jerry's lead guitar quite admirably. And then they go right into Crytical Envelopment. Doesn't get much better than that, folks!
If you want to know how to download this show, feel free to email me at rfkrox44@hotmail.com.
Danny from Northern Virginia outside of D.C.
Reviewer:
great white shark
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July 27, 2007
Subject: great show and film exists !
Subject: great show and film exists !
I have just added some very interesting info about film footage that resides in the Deads vaults of the show itself and also of the visit to the UK in 1970 http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/hollyfilm.html
hopefully some of this will see the light of day soon .
blame the film crew for dosing themselves and thus fucking up the film shoot - too much desire to taste of owsleys finest and we were deprived of a classic show !
Rated 4 , a great show but I don't listen much as the sound is so grating.
hopefully some of this will see the light of day soon .
blame the film crew for dosing themselves and thus fucking up the film shoot - too much desire to taste of owsleys finest and we were deprived of a classic show !
Rated 4 , a great show but I don't listen much as the sound is so grating.
Reviewer:
amazingbeatleman
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June 21, 2007
Subject: THE DEAD AT THE HOLLYWOOD MUSIC FESTIVAL SUNDAY 24TH MAY 1970 BOX SET
Subject: THE DEAD AT THE HOLLYWOOD MUSIC FESTIVAL SUNDAY 24TH MAY 1970 BOX SET
I WAS THERE! THERE IS A HOLLYWOOD MUSIC FESTIVAL BOX SET AVAILABLE! IT HAS SOME 30 ITEMS: CUTTINGS, REVIEWS, T-SHIRT, BADGES, CDs, 100 PAGE BOOK, AND DVD WITH FOOTAGE OF THE FESTIVAL, INC' THE DEAD. IT COSTS £50, PLUS POSTAGE, AND HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER BY A YOUNG ENTERPRISE GROUP AT THE COPPICE SPECIAL SCHOOL IN NEWCASTLE-UNDER-LYME, STAFFORDSHIRE. A GREAT COLLECTORS ITEM. E-MAIL ME IF YOU NEED HELP garrymarsh@hotmail.com.
IT WAS A GREAT 1ST GIG IN THE UK. I ALSO SAW THEM AT THEIR SECOND GIG; BICKERSHAW IN 72. OH BY THE WAY MUNGO JERRY BLEW EVERYONE OFF THE STAGE INC' THE DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GARRY
IT WAS A GREAT 1ST GIG IN THE UK. I ALSO SAW THEM AT THEIR SECOND GIG; BICKERSHAW IN 72. OH BY THE WAY MUNGO JERRY BLEW EVERYONE OFF THE STAGE INC' THE DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GARRY
Reviewer:
i812345
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January 7, 2007 (edited)
Subject: 5 stars
Subject: 5 stars
you guys giving 3 stars need to go back to mars.
Reviewer:
Liamfinnegan
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January 3, 2007
Subject: Thanks to the last reviewer to bring this one up
Subject: Thanks to the last reviewer to bring this one up
Never heard this Dark Star and it is a very very good one- it is a transitional phase star that scorches and then goes total space with gongs and bells...cant wait to see how it ends
Reviewer:
Active8Now
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January 2, 2007
Subject: Don't miss this one!
Subject: Don't miss this one!
I'm going to give this five stars, just to encourage more folk to listen to it. The band is ON!! OK, all the comments about the mix are true and they should really knock it down to a four, but...
...the performance is so great, it's got to be one of the best of 1970. Dr. Flashback is right about the '69 energy being there. All the songs are good but Cryptical Envelopment onward are GREAT! It's got the whole range, from the quiet and yearning thru to the wild and rocking. Listen to Dark Star, if nothing else! It's one of the best, and the sound is good throughout this one. Lovelight is a special one too but, unfortunately, suffers a bit more from problems in the mix - still quite listenable, though. Don't miss it, Pigpen fans, he really runs free on this one.
A personal note: I was at this show (the Bickershaw Festival), being still in England at the time, and I've passed it over many times in the Archive, not remembering it as this good. I guess the Dead's performances come over better in more intimate venues than this huge festival.
...the performance is so great, it's got to be one of the best of 1970. Dr. Flashback is right about the '69 energy being there. All the songs are good but Cryptical Envelopment onward are GREAT! It's got the whole range, from the quiet and yearning thru to the wild and rocking. Listen to Dark Star, if nothing else! It's one of the best, and the sound is good throughout this one. Lovelight is a special one too but, unfortunately, suffers a bit more from problems in the mix - still quite listenable, though. Don't miss it, Pigpen fans, he really runs free on this one.
A personal note: I was at this show (the Bickershaw Festival), being still in England at the time, and I've passed it over many times in the Archive, not remembering it as this good. I guess the Dead's performances come over better in more intimate venues than this huge festival.
Reviewer:
markdue
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May 8, 2006
Subject: What a great concert....
Subject: What a great concert....
Thank you for giving this show another try. It was simply massive to see these guys for the first time in Europe. The guys were in great form, playing at this crazy festival in a beautiful surrounding blending the hot day into a mild night. With a great Dark Star still ringing in my head after - wow! 36 years! Thanks the guys making this possible!!
Reviewer:
rollandfin
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April 17, 2006 (edited)
Subject: Europe 1970!
Subject: Europe 1970!
hot
Reviewer:
familiarfan
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January 9, 2006 (edited)
Subject: Not Long
Subject: Not Long
I'm already writing and I'm on Casey Jones.
It's gonna be fine.
I've enduldged during my life, but I don't even have a clue where alot of you are coming from giving a energetic show like this 3 stars.
I also have a suscpision that this song selection may have been the most pertinant to the band or atleast the most popular of the band.
That's a guess.
It's gonna be fine.
I've enduldged during my life, but I don't even have a clue where alot of you are coming from giving a energetic show like this 3 stars.
I also have a suscpision that this song selection may have been the most pertinant to the band or atleast the most popular of the band.
That's a guess.
Reviewer:
jammy
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October 13, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Nice Dark Star
Subject: Nice Dark Star
Sound quality not up to the top 10%, but the Dark Star is very nice as Dr.Flashback says. The rest of the show not as good as many in 1970. An Average show for a great year (IMO). Overall a 3.5 , drop half a notch for sound quality.
my rating scale
1 = 10%
2 = 20%
3 = 40%
4 = 20%
5 = 10%
you ask what would I rate a 5? A few off the top of my head
11/2/69, 11/8/69, Dark Star from 2/2/70
2/11-14/70, 5/2/70, 9/18/70, 4/28/71 second set, 4/29/71 end of show, 5/11/72, a bunch from 9/72, I like 73 and 74 as well, many in may 1977, very few after, none from 93-95. Although my experience at a show may make it a five for me, but not one of the top 10% of all GD shows.
my rating scale
1 = 10%
2 = 20%
3 = 40%
4 = 20%
5 = 10%
you ask what would I rate a 5? A few off the top of my head
11/2/69, 11/8/69, Dark Star from 2/2/70
2/11-14/70, 5/2/70, 9/18/70, 4/28/71 second set, 4/29/71 end of show, 5/11/72, a bunch from 9/72, I like 73 and 74 as well, many in may 1977, very few after, none from 93-95. Although my experience at a show may make it a five for me, but not one of the top 10% of all GD shows.
Reviewer:
blue52
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October 12, 2005
Subject: 5 star Dark Star
Subject: 5 star Dark Star
Just lisen to the this Dark Star!I think they scared a few people that day.Might scare you,so hold on to your seats.
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Tampa Red
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July 7, 2005
Subject: Man we're getting spoiled...
Subject: Man we're getting spoiled...
...if this is considered unlistenable. It's still so much better than about 90% of the cassettes I ever had it's not even funny! A very fun and energetic set, with a nice Attics as a special bonus. How many times was Attics ever played live anyway, fewer than 20?
Reviewer:
capn doubledose
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March 18, 2005
Subject: Forget about the sound degradation - this show rocks
Subject: Forget about the sound degradation - this show rocks
This is not intolerable by any stretch of the imagination and this show is really superb. Everyone is really on - Not sure what I like the best. Listen to the Dr. he knows what he is talking about and gives credit where it's due. Just listen up you will not be dissapointed!!
Reviewer:
besht2003
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December 23, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Nice show, SBD mix degrades
Subject: Nice show, SBD mix degrades
A nice tasty show and OK sound at first--the mix could be more pristine and gets worse into Lovelight. Interestingly enough, http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/ebony/546/Holly-dead.70.html reports that the Grateful Dead were a warm-up act, coming up from London to fill a 4:30 afternoon spot.
Reviewer:
dirty jev-o
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October 24, 2004
Subject: low end humm
Subject: low end humm
in addition tot he hum, it sounds like audio cable is being unplugged or recording levels are peaking.....yuck......good performance ofcourse....when did they ever disappoint?
Reviewer:
dr. flashback
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September 13, 2004 (edited)
Subject: don't miss this!
Subject: don't miss this!
Due to sound quality, I can't include this as a top ten. But don't let that scare you away from this monster show. The quality gets better as the show continues. These ARE 35 year old tapes, after all.
The Dead's first appearance in Europe I believe. A harbinger of what was to come in 2 years.
I will pencil this in as a top ten, to be possibly revised as I hear more 1970. But whereas some 1970 shows are weakened by experimental new songs that don't work - although interesting - this show really shines. As a matter of fact, with this song list, the effect is more like 1969 energy -esp. on the Dark Star and Other One.
The beginning sound on Casey Jones is a weak mix, but then things quickly improve as the Bear figures out the system, and they deliver a rollicking good China>Rider. And a rare Attics is always nice too.
The band were definitely out to prove something tonight - their first chance to blow Europe's mind, and their first big festival since Woodstock. The St. Stephen to the end is fantastic, just blazing.
A B+ for sound quality, but still a great and historic show that deserves a listen.
Dr. Flashback ;-)
The Dead's first appearance in Europe I believe. A harbinger of what was to come in 2 years.
I will pencil this in as a top ten, to be possibly revised as I hear more 1970. But whereas some 1970 shows are weakened by experimental new songs that don't work - although interesting - this show really shines. As a matter of fact, with this song list, the effect is more like 1969 energy -esp. on the Dark Star and Other One.
The beginning sound on Casey Jones is a weak mix, but then things quickly improve as the Bear figures out the system, and they deliver a rollicking good China>Rider. And a rare Attics is always nice too.
The band were definitely out to prove something tonight - their first chance to blow Europe's mind, and their first big festival since Woodstock. The St. Stephen to the end is fantastic, just blazing.
A B+ for sound quality, but still a great and historic show that deserves a listen.
Dr. Flashback ;-)
Reviewer:
hipster18
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August 9, 2004
Subject: good show
Subject: good show
i think love light sound is to low but what do i know
Reviewer:
RJGerard
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June 29, 2004
Subject: Worth a Listen
Subject: Worth a Listen
I am not one of those people who gives 5 stars to a show just to go along with the other reviewers. For the most part, Dick's Picks are what I think are 5 star shows.That being said, this is worthy of a solid 3 stars. There are some really great jams here. My & My Uncle is great. I love Hard to Handle. PigPen is rough and raw, Jerry electric and energetic. Attics of My Life is also strong. The sound quality is O.K., but not great. But all in all, very much listenable. I recommend this show highly.
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